I will say though when I had my F90BT, I got it pretty soon after it just came out. After a few software updates it was leagues better in functionality and use.

I wouldn't count it out entirely, maybe email Pioneer about it and see if they are working on it. I think I might look into that for a b-day present. I love the app integration.

Im not completely. 333 for a radio like that seems like a really good price. My superduty wouldnt play CDs for some reason so I never used it. I would much rather prefer my phone. That is where all the music is anyway.

Let me know if you hear of any personal experiences. I cant get it yet as I need other things first.

Lots of personal experience here. Great site, go-to resource for Pioneer double dins

http://avic411.com/index.php?/forum/...adio-sph-da01/

Sounds like junk from reading that site.

Yeah I saw that too. Quiet unfortunate, I love the idea. Hopefully they can improve on the execution.

Maybe i will go this route

Zach...here's info on the Z130 http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...on/AVIC-Z130BT

Ive ran both the Clarion NX501 and Kenwood in double dinn. Overall, my Kenwood would get stuck with cd's in the tray all the time. When I finally took it back into the shop they said it was a common issue with that mechanism on a few models. The Clarion is was an amazing unit with swipe touch screen, it was sooooo slick and worked so well. This is the unit i had in my X with back up camera, was kick ass.

I think if you shop around you can find an NX501 new for around 600 though msrp is listing around 818. I didnt pay 800, i paid more around 600 myself about 1 year ago when it was just released.

Check out the double din review on R-F if you are still looking. The Pioneer 4300 looks very nice too.

I just gave up, decided music wasnt that important anyway. lol

Thanks for the info though