vindex1963

I normally run Mobil 1 5w-20 year around and have used oil analysis to prove it's a robust low shear oil. I know oil is a hot topic and can be confusing when your application is heavy towing, high performance or you're just looking for the best oil to protect your expensive investment.

I recently bought a Victory motorcycle and never having a motorcycle that shared oil in the primary, engine and transmission has gotten me investigating. The options are endless and made me think anybody regardless of motorcycle or truck would be confused. I finally settled on a product after visiting multiple forums and Bob the Oil Guy.

I use Mobil 1 and have for years. The 110+ Arizona summers don't even begin to affect it. It's 100% synthetic and from I'm learning it's one of a handful that is. Amsoil is another and for all the complaining about marketing practices I can't find any factual information that says it's an inferior product. I don't use it but it looks to be a good product also.

I don't get the whole blended oil, go dino or synthetic. I don't see the benefit of blended oil.

Opinions?

KLC

I use Royal Purple and Castrol Edge Synthetic with Wix and Purolator filters. Mobil 1 and Lucas are good products too.

Purplehazeir

Mobile 1 here as well.

Some oils have additives in it, like graphite; that can be very bad for wet clutches on motorcycles. The graphite make the clutch plates too slippery and you end up having rebuild the clutch assembly far too soon than your would have under normal wear and tear.

vindex1963

For any wet clutch application you need to have JASO MA and MA2 are wet clutch approved.

I'm using Rotella T triple protection


Mobil 1 is an excellent oil. I use it in all my vehicles including my Harley.

I was in contact with an Amsoil salesman and they sell a good case for Amsoil. It's priced like Mobil 1 but double the change intervals. I've looked up some used oil analysis on it and it performs quite well in all vehicle applications.

My Ford truck will see Mobil 1 for the rest of it's life.

vindex1963

Found an interesting article.




Finding a Pot of Gold in Premium PCMO

By Nancy DeMarco

HOUSTON - Synthetic-blend passenger car motor oils are losing value in the market, while premium oils with the best base oils, viscosity modifiers and additive packages offer real performance differentiation. That translates to higher value for consumers and oil marketers alike.

"Synthetic blend" has lost its meaning, and the North American motor oil market is increasingly segmented, Erika Vela, crankcase technologist with Infineum USA, told the NPRA Lubricants & Waxes meeting here Nov. 10. "But not all synthetics are created equal. A premium additive pack is needed to differentiate products, not just base oil."

North America's premium synthetic motor oil market is dominated by several brands, including Mobil 1, Pennzoil Platinum, Valvoline SynPower, Castrol Edge and Amsoil. This is a profitable segment, she continued, with 8 percent annual growth in North America's overall flat-to-declining engine oil market.

A synthetic blend, on the other hand, has come to include any motor oil that uses API Group III as a correction fluid, no matter how little. "The value of synthetic blend claims has deteriorated over time and is now on par with conventional claims," said Vela. The claim says nothing specific about oil quality or performance. It brings little to no value to marketers, as too many conventional oils use the term. And it fails to command a price premium.

Consequently, she noted, "many marketers no longer have a true mid-tier product in their lineup." And many large marketers don't call their oils 'part synthetic' or 'synthetic blend.'

North America's market is becoming more and more segmented, with ultra-low viscosity oils, Dexos, high-mileage oils, 'green' oils including rerefined and bio-based, and a growing number of private labels penetrating the premium market. "A new mid-tier will evolve," Vela predicted, "and Dexos will fall into the mid-tier."

Focusing on a premium GF-5 oil means "marketers can tell a story about why their oil is better," Vela continued, and that allows them to capture value.
But, she cautioned, it takes the right additive package as well as a quality base stock to provide differentiated performance.

As an example, she highlighted the benefits of Infineum's premium technology over conventional GF-5 technologies. The premium full-synthetic oil extends drain intervals to 15,000 or 20,000 miles; it provides better fuel economy; it significantly outperforms Dexos1 oils on the Sequence IIIG test; it provides stringent cleanliness as well as fuel economy; and more.

"But it's costly," said Vela. Premium technology, with high levels of antioxidants and high quality base stocks add cost.

"SAE 0W-20, Dexos1 and the growth of full synthetics have put strains on Group III supply," she said. Group III supply was very tight in 2011, although it should ease as Neste's new supply reaches North America. In addition, Shell's introduction of gas-to-liquids base stocks in their own products will ease supply issues. Polyalphaolefins are also in very short supply, but new capacity is promised to come on stream over the next two years.

The use of premium base stocks, viscosity modifiers and additive packages "offers oil marketers the ability to capture higher value through truly differentiated features," Vela concluded," and premium performance has value for the consumer."

harley

I fully support Mobile 1 and for the money you really can't do any better. I also fully support Slick50 as an additive and having torn down several engines over the years finding them EXTREMELY clean having run this additive. Given Ford offering this as part of their Total Works package and the affordable cost, it's hard to go anywhere else given the work is performed by your local dealer.
Questioning mixing Slick50 with Mobile 1, and drving an Eco Boost, I also contacted both manufactures and they supported no issue. It is CRITICAL , however, you fully break-in the engine first!!
Note: Slick50 can also help with cold start lubrication; my experience has been increased fuel economy as well. I have NO equity in SLICK50, I'm simply a believer in the products and it's benefits; I use it in everthing I own.

carlof1

To me, using quality brand of oil like Mobil and Royal Purple plus a good filter is enough. No need to use any additives.

harley

Nuff said.... if you're running and eco boost you might re-think that but I agree Royal Purple and Mobile 1 are outstanding!!

C & J

Mobile 1 is what I,ve been using for a few years now, and it sure made a difference. I use 0-30w and I have to wipe the oil off my dipstick on my riding mowers even after they been sitting for a month or 2. That tells me the oil is clinging to the cylinder walls and providing the protection I need. I have 3 autos and 3 mowers, and I wouldn't trust any other oil to any of them.